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Pod and Planet Fiction Content
We've got some talented writers in EVE who deserve a good fiction contest and a place to post their works. And thanks to some outrageously generous sponsors, we've got a contest that should motivate people to stop messing around and get their stories written. Check out these prizes:
-An EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX670 graphics card, courtesy of CCP. I'll let you look up the specs and value on that one yourself...!
-Two year-long subscriptions to EON, courtesy of EON magazine.
-An ISK prize pool totalling 20 billion, courtesy of Somer Blink and Eve Online Hold'Em.
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-Twelve months of PLEX, courtesy of EOH Tom.
Not too bad, eh...? And in addition, very good entries may be considered for publication in EON.
OK, so the contest: There will be two categories. The main category is for works based on the New Eden lore and canon, similar to the EVE Chronicles stories. Works in this category should be faithful to he EVE canon and shouldn't mention actual in-game player characters, corps or alliances. No doubt we'll get some amazingly imaginative and well-crafted stories here.
The second category is for works about actual in-game player characters or in-game happenings. If you want to write a story about your corp and its members, a stroke of pvp tactical brilliance, a corp infiltration, a hulkageddon encounter, etc., it should go here. Have fun and tell your true, partly-true, or entirely made-up tales from the world of EVE.
More detailed guidelines for each category are on the contest page.
Word count for entries is 1,400-5,000 words. The contest will run until December 2, 2012, then judging will be by CCP Eterne, CCP Falcon, and myself. Please see the contest page for the rules, how to submit your work, and the list of prizes for each category. Any questions, just post them in this thread or EVE mail me.
Good luck writers! Get on it! |
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J Kunjeh wrote:Big win to CCP and the EON guys. This is a great contest and I can't wait to see the submissions.
Will we get to see at least the runners up as well as the winners? Or perhaps all of the submissions? What can I say, I'm a sucker for great stories.
Can't wait to see who wins and read them via my recently re-upped EON sub.
All of the stories will be available for reading. That's part of the point, to give people a place to share their work. Once the stories start coming, we'll post links to them on the contest page. |
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Kumq uat wrote:I was wondering if my story series would count. I wrote a series for Eve-Pirate awhile ago, fiction, set in the Eve Universe, but it was silly and definatly not canon. Would this be acceptable to enter?
Sorry, the entry needs to be a new work. It could be another story in your series, though.
By the way, if the new story is non-canon, there's a category for that. |
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Twoso wrote:The contest rules say "must be 1400-1500 words." Does this mean "no more than"? Or "no more than and no less than"? Silly question, but I just want to confirm.
The work should be no less than 1,400, no more than 5,000 to be considered in the competition. If it's outside that range, we can link it for everybody to read, but we can't consider it for a prize. |
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Romvex wrote:so there is no violating the canon, but what about things the canon doesn't tell us much or anything about? what about things involving the more mysterious aspects of the fiction? could we "fill in the gaps" per say? i was thinking about writing about the Feythabolis, which is some thing we know almost nothing about.
Yes, speculating and filling in the gaps is OK. The readers will just have to realize that we're writing fiction stories, not creating new canon. |
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Kumq uat wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:Kumq uat wrote:I was wondering if my story series would count. I wrote a series for Eve-Pirate awhile ago, fiction, set in the Eve Universe, but it was silly and definatly not canon. Would this be acceptable to enter? Sorry, the entry needs to be a new work. It could be another story in your series, though. By the way, if the new story is non-canon, there's a category for that. Can't be bothered. I am working on my own science fiction series currently. Don't see why you can't accept a piece of work I did awhile ago.
Sorry mate. The reasons for this:
-Works might be considered for publication in EON, and EON prefers new, unpublished works.
-There's a lot of fan fiction out there, and the contest prizes are pretty big. We can't open the doors to the whole past body of work of EVE fan fiction. And picking some arbitrary cut-off date in the past would be messy. It would be good for some people, but bad for others. In other words, arbitrary, and not really fair.
-The idea is to encourage people to write new stuff.  |
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Mercfromabove wrote:i was writing an entire book on Faction warfare. I don't suppose fiction based on fiction (which could seem timeless) would be accepted? Maybe submit a chapter or something?  Merc
Not sure I follow, Merc. A story about somebody writing fiction? Sound OK. As long as it fits the guidelines on the contest page, should be fine. Maybe send me a mail if you're not sure. |
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usrevenge wrote:can we post it to this forum somewhere and just link it ( if the post date is after this date of course.)
Yes, it looks like posting your entry the EVE Fiction section will be OK. But please still send me an EVE mail with a link to the post, so we don't miss it. |
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Dezolf wrote:Since we are allowed to submit multiple entries, I was wondering if it'd be okay to submit a two-part story (-ish)? And by that, I don't mean a way of getting around the strict word-limit, but more of, say, a story about whatever, and then a "follow-up" story that, in example, explains and follows the events strictly following the previous story? Or should each entry be ("strictly") disjunct - as in, not referring to each other? In case the above was unclear, three examples: 1) Story A takes place YC 50 and story B in YC 110. B starts out by explaining the outlines of A, and has a subject of the effects of A. 2) Story A is about a person in YC 110-115, and story B is about the same person, in YC 120. 3) Story A is about a person in YC 50, and story B is about this persons now-grown son in YC 110. Again, there might be overlaps (such as, if, in story A, the person has a mighty battle or similar which might make the deed known (locally or throughout New Eden)). Are either allowed? Is it okay if story B does not refer to things that a reader might not know (provided the reader hasn't read story A beforehand)? Maybe I'm jumping the horse, since B might not have enough words for recaps. Better safe than sorry, though. (And while it might be better to ask forgiveness than permission, I'm a stickler for contest rules) As a side note, I find it both hilarious and ingenious that the contest spans november, at the same time as NaNoWriMo. Aand a follow-up question: If the story submitted to this contest is 1/10th of the story submitted to NaNoWriMo, does this violate the contest rules (NaNoWriMo does not, if I recall correctly, publish the novel)?
First part of your question: Yes, a series of stories is OK. For judging purposes, each one will have to stand independently on its own, in isolation. As if the story were being submitted to a magazine, and the readers are not familiar with the characters or the previous events. (Tough challenge, eh? But the old Sherlock Holmes, H.P. Lovecraft, Conan and Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser stories managed to do it, and yet have some degree of continuity).
Second part of your question: To be considered in the competition, the story shouldn't have been published anywhere. If it won't appear on a NaNoWriMo site or any other site during the contest, it should be OK. If it is published (posted) somewhere else during the contest, we can't consider it as a competition entry. We're trying to keep things simple for Zapatero at EON, who may be considering good entries for publication. Publishing/posting somewhere else makes that complicated. |
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Kratos Alabel wrote:Ok, so i read the pages concerning this and I am a wee-bit confused. The eve official lore part is what is confusing me. Is there a specific topic in eve or can we make up any fictional story to be considered for the graphics card contest.
There's no specific topic in the lore-based category. The story just needs to be set in the New Eden world, and be as faithful to the lore as possible. I'm going to refer you to Zapatero's post for guidance about how strictly faithful to the lore you need to be. |
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MItchell Jensen wrote:Can I submit the same story in a different category?
Is there a maximum submission point?
Do I need to be absolutely cannon? Because EVE Lore has much that isn't discussed in detail.
I already have an eve-online crossover fanfiction published on the internet at this time. The characters in the story aren't human. Would my story not be considered if a different version of it is uploaded somewhere else?
-No, one story can only be used in one category, please.
-No, there's no maximum in the amount of entries. People can submit as much as they feel inspired to.
-No, not absolutely canon. It's just not possible, if anyone wanted to talk about a detail that isn't already covered in a canon piece. And it would cramp creativity a lot. Zapatero's guidelines for EON submissions is a good guide.
-Essentially, the contest entries need to be new creations. The idea is for people to start thinking, creating and writing between now and when the contest ends. Maybe the older work needs a follow up to the next progression in the story...? |
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Loed Kane wrote:wish i could join in on this contest but my spelling and Grammar suckkks
A good story is still a good story, even if the grammar isn't perfect. Spell check can take care of the spelling for you. Same for people who don't speak English as a first language-- don't be shy. |
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SamuraiJack wrote:mmmh so hang on. do they define published as in a magazine... or published as in on a website etc? eg my stories are up on fanfiction. are they counting this as published or not?
Yep, that would count as 'published.' I've added a short wall of text (the stubbiest one possible) to the contest page to the clarify that entries should be brand-new works. But send a link to your older stories, if you want to share them as non-competition stories for the 'reading library.' And crank out a new story for the competition-- you still have 5 weeks. |
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Hello, a rules change that may benefit some writers:
In the category for stories about players/in-game events, the word count for stories is now 600-5,000 words. This allows submission of shorter works. (A minimum of 600 words instead of 1,400). Works in this category won't be considered for publication in EON, so there's no reason for them to have fit minimum word count guidelines.
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Epigene wrote:I am looking forward to this, this is a great project.
I wonder if it would be acceptable to submit a new chapter in an ongoing series if - of course - that chapter is self-contained to a point where it can be read, understood and judged on its own merits?
Epi
Sure, it can be part of a series, as long as it's a new work. And self-contained, as you said. |
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Sorry, I lost electricity for a few days and am behind on confirming and linking the entries. Thanks for checking in, Meryl. At the end of the contest, we'll ask everybody to check and make sure they see their entry on the entries page. |
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Posted - 2012.11.09 18:44:00 -
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Now we're at 14 in the canon-based category and 15 in the free-form category. Thanks for busting up those 13s-- not good to have around on a Friday.  |
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Posted - 2012.11.15 22:42:00 -
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Still about two weeks left to write. |
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Posted - 2012.11.16 17:28:00 -
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What no wife of a writer can ever understand is that a writer is working when he's staring out the window.
- Rudolph Erich Rascoe
The worst thing you write is better than the best thing you didn't write.
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Like William Shakespeare, I never go back and rewrite.
-Isaac Asimov
I have rewritten--often several times--every word I have ever published. My pencils outlast their erasers.
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The thing about a story is that you dream it as you tell it, hoping that others might then dream along with you, and in this way memory and imagination and language combine to make spirits in the head. There is the illusion of aliveness.
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Arrs Grazznic wrote:This is a great contest and IGÇÖve enjoyed reading a few of the submissions so far. IGÇÖm thinking of entering (yeah, I know, only a week to go) but I do have a question on the eligibility of my submission...
A few years ago I sent a draft of the first part of a story to (ex-CCP) Zapatero for a bit of a review. I had a few comments back but never got round to acting on these or finishing the story (until today). The story has not been published anywhere (online or off), but would my contact with Zapatero disqualify my entry?
Hmm... Sending you a PM on this one Arrs. |
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:How come I only noticed this today 
 Pressure yields inspiration, I hope...! |
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Count of MonteCylon wrote:Any chance that you will extend the deadline on this? I've been working on something that I'm excited about, but I might be too busy to complete it by December 2nd. 
Ah, I wish we could. But we have a few people involved, and they've already made plans around the Dec. 2 close date.
But on the other hand... writing under time pressure is an old writing tradition! Good luck! |
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Posted - 2012.12.01 22:14:00 -
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New entries are coming in fast. You guys are true writers-- last minute inspiration, beating up on that deadline! |
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OK, we've hit the end of the entry submissions period. Well done everybody. A total of exactly 100 original, new works came in from the writers of the EVE community. Not bad by anybody's standard, I'd say. 43 of those came in during the last two days before the contest deadline. That's about 20/day in the last two days, compared to about 1.5/day in the first 37 days of the contest. Once again, a fine writing tradition or procrastination/deadline-crunching was followed!
If you entered the contest, please:
-Make sure your entry is on the Contest Entries & Reading Bank page. If it's not there, it's not accessible to the judges.
-Make sure the entry is in the category you wanted (8,000 Suns or A Day in the Life).
-Make sure the page's hyperlink to your entry is working properly.
OK, so about the judging: Please watch here or on the contest blog page for an estimate when we'll be done. We just received about 340 pages of new entries for the judges to start reading. We're all doing this in our after-work hours, so that will take some time. But we're aiming for announcing contest results as soon as we can. We'll give an update on when we expect to be done in a day or two.
o7 all, well done! |
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Sugar Kyle wrote:The hyperlink for ill gained goods does not work properly. It does link to my main story page which has the link to the actual story right there.
OK, thanks SK. I know what you mean, I'll revise so that the link goes directly to the story. |
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John Frek wrote: From the stories that I've had the privilege of reading, they all have something worth mentioning.
I have a question about the judging though:
As far as determining an overall winner, how far does adhering to Eve Lore and Cannon go?
I've read some entries that merely toss the name of an NPC into their story and call it good so that they can be considered for the grand prize, then I've seen others that take a significant event of EVE's Lore and Cannon history and bring it alive with their submission. While still good stories, it's evident that some of the them don't have any real connection to any of the rich content we have in such abundance.
Thank you for everyone involved, the amount of fiction received should give anyone a good run for their money. I wish everyone the best of luck.
The rules for the 8,000 Suns category follow Zapatero's guidelines for EON submissions. Basically, the story should fit into the New Eden world, as laid out by the canon. The rules don't say that points will be added for expert use of the canon.
But, that said... If incorporating content from the lore makes the story "better" (more interesting, intriguing, thought provoking, etc.), then that will naturally count in the judging. In other words, a story might be based on a theme or event from the lore. That theme or event is already very interesting. By taking advantage of that already-interesting content and building on it, the story might end up with more richness and impact than it would have otherwise. So though points aren't specifically added for incorporating the lore, taking advantage of the lore could make the story a stronger, more interesting entry. Or not-- it depends on the story.
Personally the judging criteria I'll be using is whether an entry is a "good story, with good ideas, told well." (Not necessarily told with perfect English grammar, but told well). |
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Enjoying some good reads! A pretty big variety of stuff, and all kinds of approaches to telling a tale in 5000 words or less. |
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We're aiming for having everything wrapped up before by the Christmas break. That's assuming that no no unexpected time demands come up for any of the judges. |
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John Frek wrote:I'd be lying if I said I didn't check this page on a daily basis for updates! 
We're going as fast as we can! Just be glad we're all managing to read an average of 3-4 stories per day, and not just one. If one per day, results would be announced in mid-March. |
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Marcus Talonius wrote:Telegram Sam wrote:John Frek wrote: From the stories that I've had the privilege of reading, they all have something worth mentioning.
I have a question about the judging though:
As far as determining an overall winner, how far does adhering to Eve Lore and Cannon go?
I've read some entries that merely toss the name of an NPC into their story and call it good so that they can be considered for the grand prize, then I've seen others that take a significant event of EVE's Lore and Cannon history and bring it alive with their submission. While still good stories, it's evident that some of the them don't have any real connection to any of the rich content we have in such abundance.
Thank you for everyone involved, the amount of fiction received should give anyone a good run for their money. I wish everyone the best of luck. The rules for the 8,000 Suns category follow Zapatero's guidelines for EON submissions. Basically, the story should fit into the New Eden world, as laid out by the canon. The rules don't say that points will be added for expert use of the canon. But, that said... If incorporating content from the lore makes the story "better" (more interesting, intriguing, thought provoking, etc.), then that will naturally count in the judging. In other words, a story might be based on a theme or event from the lore. That theme or event is already very interesting. By taking advantage of that already-interesting content and building on it, the story might end up with more richness and impact than it would have otherwise. So though points aren't specifically added for incorporating the lore, taking advantage of the lore could make the story a stronger entry. Or not-- it depends on the story. Personally the judging criteria I'll be using is whether an entry is a "good story, with good ideas, told well." (Not necessarily told with perfect English grammar, but told well). I think i see what he is getting at. Your givin away a graphix card and other prizes for adhering to the eve cannon because it is more so difficult to writer for, but some of these entries look like they are wrote for a "day in the life" then changing their in game characters name to an NPCs name so that they could be in the running for that "harder" prize. But hey, if that's all it takes to make your story within the eve lore, go for it I say :)
In the end, I suppose it's kind of a PVP-like decision: How will your story with minimal lore content fare in battle against all the others in the lore-based category? That may or may not take advantage of good ideas from the canon? Or should you play it more conservatively, and enter your story in the A Day in the Life category? To win, your story has to be the best in the category, however that's achieved.
But again, just to clarify to everyone: The rules of the 8,000 Suns category didn't say that a story has to be lore-intensive to win. They just follow Zapatero's guidelines for EON submissions-- fit into the New Eden world, no egregious violations of the lore, no mentioning player entities. It's more of a "thou shalt not" rule than a "thou shalt" rule. |
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:43:00 -
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Update on judging:
Santa's helpers are still busy making their list. After that, they'll have to check it twice. We don't have an estimate on when they'll be done-- but we do know that these elves wish they had the power of time dilation.
In the meantime-- Merry Christmas! |
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Quick check in to say that the judgifier processor is still in operation and working on a solution. So far, its estimate for when results will be announced is still '42'. Nothing more definitive than that yet, but just an update to let you know we didn't disappear or pass out for the holidays. |
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While you're waiting for judging results, maybe you'd like to check out your colleagues' work in the Reading Bank. All kinds of stuff there, by writers who were at it long before this contest was even a twinkle in the EVE fiction community's eye. Series with continuity of characters and events, from episode to episode. Longer works and free-er works, made minus any restrictions whatsoever. Check out the ideas and leave some honest comments for your colleagues. Even if you hold their feet to the fire, they'll appreciate that somebody read and dialogued with them. |
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Check this out: Pod and Planet Fiction Contest Winners Announced
It's done-- Happy New Year! |
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